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Retired rear admiral on the ousting of Navy Secretary John Phelan

NPR's Michel Martin asks retired Rear Admiral Mark Montgomery for his thoughts on the departure of John Phelan < > from his role as Secretary of the Navy.

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Michel Martin is the weekend host of All Things Considered, where she draws on her deep reporting and interviewing experience to dig in to the week's news. Outside the studio, she has also hosted "Michel Martin: Going There," an ambitious live event series in collaboration with Member Stations.